On the latest DF Q&A regarding the potential price of the PS6 I was a bit surprised by some of the feedback from supporters. While there were a few, I would say sensible, folks hoping for around a £700-£800 entry point, there were arguably more claiming they expected, and would accept, £1000 or more.
I think this feedback may be skewed by two complimentary factors: DF supporters are a) Gaming enthusiasts. And b) Have disposable income.
I know a DF subscription isn't much, but it's also not nothing, and I think in cases where DF is soliciting feedback on things like price, it does mean the responses they get may not be indicative of not just the wider publics' opinion, but even the average gamers'.
I can totally see a world where the PS6 launches at over a Grand, but that's a world where not only are far fewer people actually going to buy one, but that fact itself feeds back into why it's so expensive. Sony may decide if they're going to be losing th lower end of the market, they may as well get as much from the middle and higher end buyers.
This may seem like Doomposting, but... have you looked around lately?
@Bigmanupstairs Yep, this.
My guess that the proportion of PS5 Pros, RTX 5070 or higher, X3D CPUs etc. owned by DF supporters is well ahead of the Steam survey. We are probably more likely to have monitors or TVs with VRR, high refresh displays, HDR, OLED etc. so we are probably not representative of the wider population.
Everything is also proportional as well though, gaming is not actually that expensive as a hobby. PS5 over a generation, the console works out as £5.35 a month if one does not sell it at the end. PS plus includes loads of games, games on sale or second hand discs can me pretty cheap. A mid range PC, free games on Epic and things in the Steam sales can be reasonable. Going to a lower league football match, or even just out for a good meal and a few drinks is easily £100 a head now.
One has to compare the cost of hardware and games to average incomes. The PS4 generation was incredibly cheap, but previous generations were much higher as a percentage of average income, we are really just returning to the historical average, rather than that (console) generation of cheap gaming.
@StutterMcGee I mean, it's a fair point, so we opened up a poll on the community tab on YouTube and you can see the results after a few days with over 50,000 respondents!
@Rich_Leadbetter I think that gives a much better picture, although including an option for those who would be willing to pay £1000+ would maybe have been a good idea, since I feel that's the cohort who were over-represented by the DF Patreon supporters.
I feel like the obvious step to take to push people towards accepting more expensive hardware AND the digital-only ecosystem is to pass the savings of Digital Delivery to the customer. Imagine if Sony said "Yeah, the console costs £900-£1000 but the games are going back down to £50 a pop."
That would seriously sweeten the pill, but passing savings on to customers is anathema to publishers and shareholders.
Hello DF. I don’t know if somebody has brought this up since the return of the digitalfoundry.net but when ever I go to digitalfoundry.net for the latest and greatest DF video content I have to do the whole swings and roundabouts to get to the page I need. Such as trying to find the page I need I need to first go to the patreon site click on the latest post to that link only to be redirected back digitalfoundry.net/video then from there select the file quality I would like. I would thought the video tab on the site would of directed me strait to the page but it redirects me to YouTube instead, not sure if there is a link to the videos from the site but at the moment I couldn’t see one. Hope you can point me on the right track if there is a tab to the video downloads.
Thanks, Mr Bespoke
@MrBespoke If you right click on the video you want () then click "Save link as", you can then save the video. The videos at the top navigation redirects to YouTube as that was there before the archive was brought back last week so I am guessing they will amend it fairly soon.
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