As in consoles, PS5 Pro is at the front of power with PSSR 2026 revision, the quality is almost up to par with quality on any consoles. Sony has a winner with this 999 usd console. Too bad that it has one year left in the spotlight, but I have never been happier with a machine. So sad that there is no psvr2 software nor PS5 Pro enhancement for psvr2
I don't buy the recent rumors. I'm fairly sure PS6 won't be out until at LEAST 2028, if not 2029, depending on how long it will take for memory prices to stabilize. They have zero need to release a new console by next year. If they release anything next year, it might be that handheld which will really be more of a low powered PS5 than a PS6 in terms of power.
Personally, I think PS5 Pro is a bad product that never should have existed. With PS4 Pro, it had a reason to exist. 4K came out mid gen, and temporal upscaling didn't exist yet. PS4 Pro was able to effectively quadruple the visual resolution of games by doubling the pixels rendered combined with adding temporal upscaling, providing a massive visual difference, and it did it for a fair price, equal to what the console launched at. There was a need to make use of a new display format, and PS4 Pro fulfilled that need, providing a massive visual difference for a reasonable price.
There was no need for a PS5 Pro, and what it does typically provides a very minimal visual difference, for an extremely expensive price. It's an all around bad product. If you have the money and don't care how you spend it, that's up to you, but I always advise anybody buying a PS5 to save their money and buy the base PS5. I don't want people to be financially supporting a product that shouldn't have existed in the first place. If Sony wanted prototype hardware to beta test their PSSR tech, they could have done so as early dev kits for PS6 instead of this.
Thankfully, PS6 won't cost as much, because Sony knew almost nobody was going to buy PS5 Pro, and priced it very expensive so that each unit would sell for a profit. PS6 will be able to sell for a loss, and be built on more efficient hardware as well, so it will be cheaper. If they wait until 2028/2029 like I said, and prices stabilize first, PS6 will be probably around $600. If they try to push it out too soon before prices come back down, it could be $750 but still cheaper than a PS5 Pro.
@ChristopherPhD Yep, totally agree. I don't think they'll market it as PS5 or PS6, but sort of a weird partial backwards/forwards compatible thing of its own that will probably play every PS4 game, and the PS5/PS6 games that decide to make use of the low power mode. Which could obviously be an even bigger downgrade for PS6 titles but those will probably mostly be cross gen titles anyway.
The need for PS5 Pro is questionable, though PSSR2 had added to the argument. I've played a few soft looking games recently (FFVII Rebirth, Silent Hill f) that made me think about getting one but then I remember that most games are absolutely fine on the standard PS5. Wonder what GTA VI will be like...
But yeah I agree about the timelines. I reckon PS6 will be pushed out further now.
PS6 is literally on track to be released Nov 2027.
That's what the rumors say but I think they're false. It's quite possible that the dev kits for PS6 will be ready by then, and they're getting the technology ready for that, as well as the possible handheld release which will include lower power hardware from the same architecture, and probably some of the same software. But it seems incredibly unlikely that Sony would release the proper PS6 next year. If they want to avoid inflated prices from the memory shortage, they will wait. Announcing a PS6 at $750-800 and then dropping it down to $600 a few years later would result in significantly worse sales than simply starting at $600. And then, there's just no reason for it. They just recently started having more people actively using PS5 than PS4. Even if they could miraculously price it fairly next year, they'd have a hard time getting enough people to want to buy into it for it to be successful. Plus even last year Mark Cerny claimed it's still a few years away at least.
@Kneecap Leaks are not confirmation, no one outside Sony really knows if it was ever going to release in 2027, it "literally" is not, because it is not on a track and Sony could choose to release it in 2027, 2028 or even later. At the moment everything else is pure speculation.
The PSSR2 jump was significant but I got to be honest, I still don't think the PS5 Base to PSSR2 jump was worth the 700 bucks. Certainly not the 900 they want now.
Yeah that's my feeling too. It's a great nice-to-have but it's hard to justify. I did swap a PS4 for a PS4 Pro last gen but it was much cheaper.
It's absolutely on track, the design and final tape out is done. We know exactly what the PS6 is bar tweakables like clocks and ram. The memory prices are temporary. As is the SSD crisis that's starting.
The real question is the global economy. If it's in ribbons at that stage there may be a late call to postpone 6 to 12 months and build inventory.
But the platform is locked and spec won't change and neither will the general cost of making it.
You can keep repeating "it's on track" but that is a meaningless statement. You do not know Sony's internal machinations, you do not know what the original plan was, let alone what the current plan is. You are reading rumour and speculation and then repeating it as if it were immutable fact, that is not how the real world works.
@MattGPT I know how business works. How costs works.
The PS6 is done. It's designed, it's not going to change in any meaningful way. Sony are not relinquishing their fab slots. They may make last minute decisions on memory amount, clock speeds etc. They will debate launch timetables, bundles, skus, marketing.
But the machine won't materially change.
The overwhelming likelihood is it releases Nov 2027 just as all playstations have every 6 or 7 years since PS2.
Nintendo delayed switch 2 to launch with better software and maximize a final Christmas with switch 1 stock, I don't see this as a compelling reason for Sony to push out by 4 to 6 months.
If Sony push out a year the console will be exactly the same and have been sitting in warehouses for a significant time with no guarantee of better economic conditions.
It was mentioned in the most recent DF Q+A but the nature of cross-gen and the homonegy of platforms may spell the real end of the traditional subsidised model perhaps? PS5 will play everything the PS6 can, therefore Sony doesn't need everyone to jump onboard immediately and don't need to subsidise as much. They'll be taking their 30% cut regardless.
It's a balancing act, though. It must be cheaper than a PC and there will be some imaginary boundary somewhere. Probably explains why they're pulling away from PC releases.
There are lots of consumer-friendly pros to this model, though I do miss the gigantic leaps we used to get. Guess the whole 'we believe in generations' turned out to be a mistake!
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