@SprSynJn Sony alreay retrain the stuffs on disc factory to make microlens, and the disc production will keep reducing until end of 2027, when it only produce upto 30000 game discs a day for these game release before 2028. The disc driver accessory will act as an option for these still want to play digital PS4/5 games on PS6. No more disc game will produce since 2028.
Make this decision before PS6 will just make PS6 launch more stressed, because people now have 18 month to accept next gen console and games since 2028 will all be digitial.
When PS6 launch price way reasonable than some middle~high-end PC (above 9070xt), "shut-up, take my money"
the decision seems alreay happen 2~3 years ago: (1) since 2024, Sony spend 30m € to retrain disc factory employees to manufacture microlens for autos, mobile phone and e.t.c., disc production will be reduced to upto 30000/day in the end of 2027 from 300000/day (2) cut blue-ray recordable disc and tons of blue-ray related device in 2025 (3) release discless PS5 pro in 2024, disc driver become an accessory, which will also be the case next gen so that some can still play their PS4/5 disc games. In the end, new game release on playstaion from 2028 will no disc but some code-in-box type things on 3rd party retailer. (4) the hardware component cost pressure, they can't subsidy the hardware if they can't control the price of the game in their eco-system.
Do you kown what platform these voters are playing on, how them buy the games. For me I spend $80 buy the disc driver for PS5 pro, I bought and played only 2 disc games (last one, monster hunter wilds), mostly play 3a digital games on Playstation (on sale, preorder or PS Plus extra), indie and PC online games on windows PC.
Ask youself a question: what majority of audiance of DF, I think it's mostly PC players, which alreay be digital for 2 decades. Also finiancially what this move means for SONY: (1) potentially 2%~5% profit margin rise (2) more control of the price in their platform, people argue 3a game price is $70, but most the average buy price is $35~45$ including physical game, people are targeting physical game price in 2nd hand market as the normal price rather than the digital price. SONY sold 70m physical game in FY2025, revenue ~1b, the profit margin maybe way lower than the profit margin of SONY's game business (11%), and physical game revenue is ~3.5% of the whole revenue of the game business of SONY, the digital software sold 245m with revenue 7b and way higher profit margin, the PS plus makes of most of the platform revenue.
A delay put itself more close to next gen consoles, Sony may push a PS6 below $1000 (such as $749~$849) with much better CPU and GPU (may cut some features to reduce cost), and next gen Xbox will be over $1000 (such as $1500) with a GPU performance ~RTX5080. The steam machine specs alreay outdated (GPU is 15%~20% weaker than PS5 and Series X), people could buy prebuilt with RTX5060 or AMD 9060 around or below the Steam machine price
Just a business decision for Intel, produced as B770 with 16gb vram, it can only sell at price like $349~$499 , but as a pro-tier card, it can sell at ~$1000 and has its advantage over competitors.
I think Intel will still put R&D on Xe4(5 or what they call), but these come first with i-gpu, pro-tier gpu or server gpu, as the d-gpu is not a promissing business for Intel, I doubt intel will return to d-gpu in near future, considering the 80% shipments of the whole consumer PC market is now laptops, it's better to make next intel i-gpu even more better than the b380/b390, and the intel chip become the standard of AI PCs, these i-gpu SoC are now favoured by oem&consumers and have higher profit margin for intel.
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Re: "PS5 Will Be My Last Console": After 45K Votes, 86% of DF Viewers Say Sony Should Reconsider Killing Physical Games
@SprSynJn Sony alreay retrain the stuffs on disc factory to make microlens, and the disc production will keep reducing until end of 2027, when it only produce upto 30000 game discs a day for these game release before 2028. The disc driver accessory will act as an option for these still want to play digital PS4/5 games on PS6. No more disc game will produce since 2028.
Make this decision before PS6 will just make PS6 launch more stressed, because people now have 18 month to accept next gen console and games since 2028 will all be digitial.
Re: "PS5 Will Be My Last Console": After 45K Votes, 86% of DF Viewers Say Sony Should Reconsider Killing Physical Games
When PS6 launch price way reasonable than some middle~high-end PC (above 9070xt), "shut-up, take my money"
the decision seems alreay happen 2~3 years ago: (1) since 2024, Sony spend 30m € to retrain disc factory employees to manufacture microlens for autos, mobile phone and e.t.c., disc production will be reduced to upto 30000/day in the end of 2027 from 300000/day (2) cut blue-ray recordable disc and tons of blue-ray related device in 2025 (3) release discless PS5 pro in 2024, disc driver become an accessory, which will also be the case next gen so that some can still play their PS4/5 disc games. In the end, new game release on playstaion from 2028 will no disc but some code-in-box type things on 3rd party retailer. (4) the hardware component cost pressure, they can't subsidy the hardware if they can't control the price of the game in their eco-system.
Do you kown what platform these voters are playing on, how them buy the games. For me I spend $80 buy the disc driver for PS5 pro, I bought and played only 2 disc games (last one, monster hunter wilds), mostly play 3a digital games on Playstation (on sale, preorder or PS Plus extra), indie and PC online games on windows PC.
Ask youself a question: what majority of audiance of DF, I think it's mostly PC players, which alreay be digital for 2 decades. Also finiancially what this move means for SONY: (1) potentially 2%~5% profit margin rise (2) more control of the price in their platform, people argue 3a game price is $70, but most the average buy price is $35~45$ including physical game, people are targeting physical game price in 2nd hand market as the normal price rather than the digital price. SONY sold 70m physical game in FY2025, revenue ~1b, the profit margin maybe way lower than the profit margin of SONY's game business (11%), and physical game revenue is ~3.5% of the whole revenue of the game business of SONY, the digital software sold 245m with revenue 7b and way higher profit margin, the PS plus makes of most of the platform revenue.
Re: Is This the Best Time to Release the Steam Machine? Valve Thinks It's "Very Timely, in Some Ways"
A delay put itself more close to next gen consoles, Sony may push a PS6 below $1000 (such as $749~$849) with much better CPU and GPU (may cut some features to reduce cost), and next gen Xbox will be over $1000 (such as $1500) with a GPU performance ~RTX5080. The steam machine specs alreay outdated (GPU is 15%~20% weaker than PS5 and Series X), people could buy prebuilt with RTX5060 or AMD 9060 around or below the Steam machine price
Re: Arc Pro B70 Benchmarks Show The "Big Battlemage" Arc B770 Graphics Card We Never Got
Just a business decision for Intel, produced as B770 with 16gb vram, it can only sell at price like $349~$499 , but as a pro-tier card, it can sell at ~$1000 and has its advantage over competitors.
I think Intel will still put R&D on Xe4(5 or what they call), but these come first with i-gpu, pro-tier gpu or server gpu, as the d-gpu is not a promissing business for Intel, I doubt intel will return to d-gpu in near future, considering the 80% shipments of the whole consumer PC market is now laptops, it's better to make next intel i-gpu even more better than the b380/b390, and the intel chip become the standard of AI PCs, these i-gpu SoC are now favoured by oem&consumers and have higher profit margin for intel.